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BAR1 Loses Daytona Second Place on Drive-Time Violation

BAR1 loses second place, and points, after drive time violation…

Photo: IMSA

Photo: IMSA

A second post-race penalty has been assessed following the 53rd Rolex 24 at Daytona, as on Tuesday, BAR1 Motorsports’ second-place has been deleted following a drive-time violation.

The Prototype Challenge class entry featured class polesitter Johnny Mowlem, Tom Papadopoulos, Tomy Drissi, Brian Alder and Martin Plowman in the No. 16 Oreca FLM09, but one of the car’s Silver-rated drivers did not meet the minimum drive time requirement of four hours and 30 minutes.

The pro-am PC class requires minimum drive times to be met by Bronze- or Silver-rated (amateur) drivers to be eligible for points and awards. For the Rolex 24, that minimum was as mentioned, four hours and 30 minutes for the PC and GT Daytona (GTD) class.

As the No. 16 team utilized two Platinum drivers in its Rolex 24 lineup, the team needed two Silver- or Bronze-rated drivers to each achieve the minimum drive time requirement. Only one of the team’s Silver- or Bronze drivers met the minimum. As a result, the No. 16 team loses its finishing position and all prize money and points, aside from the one point awarded for starting the race.

“For the competitive balance and fairness for other teams with different driver configurations in the ‘pro-am’ environment, minimum drive times for Bronze and Silver-rated drivers must be enforced,” said IMSA Race Director Beaux Barfield.

Per IMSA, how this situation differs from the Wayne Taylor Racing post-race penalty announced last week is that this was am failing to hit the minimum drive time, rather than a pro exceeding the maximum drive time. A rules clarification on the maximum drive time is expected to be made in the wake of the Taylor penalty.

The penalty assessed to the No. 16 team is consistent with a penalty assessed to the No. 94 Turner Motorsport GTD team in the 2014 Rolex 24 At Daytona, which also had one pro-am driver miss the minimum drive time requirement.

This change will promote CORE autosport to second and JDC-Miller Motorsports to third as a result.

Provisional results and points are expected to be released following this announcement, with official results to follow shortly thereafter.

Tony DiZinno (@tonydizinno) is Sportscar365's North American Editor, focusing on coverage of the IMSA-sanctioned championships as well as Pirelli World Challenge. DiZinno also contributes to and other motorsports outlets. Contact Tony



  1. Tim

    February 3, 2015 at 10:08 am

    Ummm so WTR gets moved to last place for the same violation and revived 16 points……but these guys only get 1 point

    • Bakkster

      February 3, 2015 at 10:32 am

      That’s because apparently the rule meant to ensure amateur drivers spend more time in the car they’re paying for is more important than the rule ensuring driver fatigue doesn’t impact safety.

      It’s ridiculous.

    • Colin Arnold

      February 3, 2015 at 10:46 am

      It is not the same violation, re-read the article.

      • someone

        February 3, 2015 at 1:03 pm

        They’re both drive time violations which should be uniform in penalty, since it is the same class of violation. If anything going over drive time should be the one that is more sever considering it is a safety issue. Saying a technical infraction is a bigger deal than compromising the safety of the driver is not a good precedence I would like to be sending as the new tech director.

        That is if they care about driver safety, which judging by other rules, no specially trained emt crew, no killing the engines for driver changes, I’m not 100% certain they do.

  2. Bob

    February 3, 2015 at 10:27 am

    There’s no “Ummmm”!
    READ the article.
    It’s NOT the same violation!!
    It explains the differences between the two teams & what was or, in this case, wasn’t done correctly by the team.

    • AdamG14

      February 3, 2015 at 4:30 pm

      Sorry Bob, gotta disagree with you. It’s a drive time violation. Plain and simple. Neither the degree to which the rule was broken, nor the manner in which it was broken should matter. If the penalty was too severe in one case, it should’ve been so in all cases.

      Really poor decision in my view. But that’s just what it is, my view as a fan.

  3. joshvc

    February 3, 2015 at 10:28 am

    So they’re willing to change the rules for a safety violation (which is what Max Drive Time is), but not this one, which is for some kind of competitive balance? Do they have meetings in the morning to think of new ways to be hypocritical and embarrassing?

    • Scott

      February 3, 2015 at 12:45 pm

      This is at least keeping consistent. In the WTR case, there was no precedent as it has not been an issue before. Here, they are enforcing it just as they did last year.

      Whether it should be changed or not is another story, but consistency is good.

  4. Jill

    February 3, 2015 at 10:36 am

    Nascar really sucks

    • jack

      February 3, 2015 at 10:41 am

      they have the same rule in WEC and ELMS

      • Bakkster

        February 3, 2015 at 11:13 am

        It’s more about how the max drive time rule with the same penalty got changed retroactively, but this one didn’t.

        Lots to be cynical about, since the max drive time rule is about safety and should be harsher while this one is about fairness and should probably be the one that’s last place, and it’s not as popular of a team.

    • Jose

      February 3, 2015 at 11:53 am

      Yes, NASCAR really sucks with its complete and utter domination of the Motorsport market in North America.

      NASCAR has been NASCAR since 1949, how many times has open wheel and sports car/road racing imploded in this country? Hmmm seems like someone has it figured out and others don’t….

      • T Holmes

        February 4, 2015 at 11:50 am

        More people listen to Justin Bieber than they do to Mozart. He still sucks.

    • Propelling Parts

      February 10, 2015 at 11:08 am

      What does NASCAR have to do with this?

  5. beep beep

    February 3, 2015 at 11:11 am

    Do we know if it was the silver or the bronze that under timed?

    • Bakkster

      February 3, 2015 at 12:11 pm

      Alder spent less than 2 hours in the car, according to timing and scoring.

      • Derek

        February 3, 2015 at 6:25 pm

        There were 5 drivers entered. So long as 2 pro and 2 ams make their time reqs shouldn’t car and drivers get points but offending driver not? Or is 5 drivers a prerequisite to have 2 pros in first place?

  6. Helmut

    February 3, 2015 at 11:22 am

    Why does it take that long to find out about these violations?

    • AdamG14

      February 3, 2015 at 4:31 pm

      There’s no good answer to that question.

  7. mar53

    February 3, 2015 at 12:50 pm

    The Maximum drive time of 4 hours etc at a time makes sense to me. And as someone said- the Wayne Taylor situation is totally different from this one. The whole gold , silver , bronze thing is a complete joke and should be gotten rid of (in my opinion). You should hire drivers of any kind , and they drive – that’s it. This rule is an ACO/ FIA deal that IMSA adopted and Inherited from the ALMS. A lot of the ratings I have seen are a complete joke- there seems to be no consistent criteria to rate the drivers anyway. IF IMSA were smart they would get rid of this whole thing of rated drivers, and just have drivers and cars period. But probably won’t happen.

    • someone

      February 3, 2015 at 1:05 pm

      If you want racing to end up like World Challenge was pre 2014 then go ahead make it a pro only series. But don’t start crying when you have a 12 car race and the series folds after one season.

    • Racing Fan

      February 3, 2015 at 8:40 pm

      You clearly don’t have a clue about the economics of auto racing. Do you think the tooth fairy pays for all these cars? Under your plan there would be much fewer cars taking the green each race. A few rich guys would dominate the races and the teams that make a living putting race cars on the grid would be absent. These rules are for reasons that include the economics of racing. It has always been a significant factor in all forms of racing. A little reality please.

  8. In the know

    February 3, 2015 at 5:07 pm

    Hi , as someone who was there , it was a miss read rule and we will be back ! I lts tough enough to take in do just calm down and let’s see what the future brings !

  9. Dave Derecola

    February 3, 2015 at 5:49 pm

    How is it possible that finishing positions in one of the most significant road races in the world are not finalized immediately following post race tech inspections, not once, but twice, and over a week later?

    Just imagine for a moment if the winner of the Super Bowl was reversed a week later because there was an infraction of the rules that the referees did not see or ruled on improperly. Or maybe Wimbledon? Or the World Series? How about the Indy 500?

    Has never happened and won’t ever happen. The finality of the score of the game must be certain at the end of the game to maintain the integrity of the game. The fans, the drivers, the teams must be able to walk away from the event and know who won.

    IMSA has failed miserably in protecting the integrity of the event when it decided to review, and review, and review, days and weeks later, to determine what they missed in enforcing the rules during the course of the event.

    IMSA, if the rules you have in place are important, then figure out a way to enforce the rules, during the event, not a week later. Get more officials, get better officials, get more technology, or get better technology, to understand if competitors are following the rules, so when the event is over, the results are final. My gosh, Rolex is the title sponsors, ask them for a few extra watches to keep track of in-car driver time.

    I have been a motorsports fan for 45 years, and cannot remember anything so ridiculous as what is happening with the Rolex 24. IMSA, get it right, the first time, or just give up the event to someone who can.

  10. steve

    February 3, 2015 at 10:32 pm

    Thank you Bob! Great comnent. Nothing more needs to be said!!! Jon, turn the comments off now. I’m getting sore laughing at these uneducated want to be sportscar racing fans….

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