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18 Entries for Lime Rock

Eighteen cars on provisional entry list for GT-only Northeast Grand Prix at Lime Rock Park…

Photo: Jake Galstad/IMSA

A total of 18 cars are on the entry list for next weekend’s Northeast Grand Prix at Lime Rock Park, in the first of two GT-only races on the IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship schedule.

The two-class format sees all eight full-season GT Le Mans entries joined by a season-low ten GT Daytona cars.

No changes have been made to the GTLM class since last weekend’s round at Canadian Tire Motorsport Park, although the No. 86 Meyer Shank Racing Acura NSX GT3 is absent from the list in GTD.

Katherine Legge currently sits second in the title race, three points behind Paul Miller Racing’s Bryan Sellers and Madison Snow.

Mario Farnbacher, who made his debut with 3GT Racing in last month’s Sahlen’s Six Hours of The Glen, has replaced David Heinemeier Hansson in the No. 15 Lexus RC F GT3 for Lime Rock, while Turner Motorsport has yet to declare its lineup for the July 20-21 event.

The two-hour and 40-minute race serves as the eighth round of the WeatherTech Championship season.

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32 Comments

32 Comments

  1. Matt

    July 11, 2018 at 5:14 pm

    Yikes. So why didn’t Shank shift funding to Legge considering she’s in the championship hunt…? Does Marks bring financial backing?

    • Bopper

      July 11, 2018 at 5:44 pm

      I think it’s safe to say anyone who’s not the Pro in a Pro-Am car is paying, and sometimes both drivers bring something to the budget.

      Obviously Justin paid for the full season, maybe with his old Nascar winnings.

      • Jack

        July 11, 2018 at 7:55 pm

        Or the fact he is a very good businessman

    • Matthew Neidert

      July 12, 2018 at 8:17 am

      All of the issues around drivers/funding in the #93 car not withstanding…for Mike Shank, in addition to Katherine Legge being 2nd in points, her #86 car is 2nd in points. If he puts Kat in the #93, he basically takes his #86 car out of contention for the Team Championship – as the #93 is 6th in points there.

  2. Binky

    July 11, 2018 at 5:17 pm

    Pretty much the only GTD’s left are teams with extremely close ties to their factories.

    Just curious, is the IMSA pay-to-play manufacturer fee the same for all classes? Does the likes of Porsche and BMW have to pay twice or just once to compete in 2 classes?

    • Slicks in the wet

      July 12, 2018 at 2:34 am

      Pretty sure it’s just once.

    • Andy Flinn

      July 12, 2018 at 9:12 pm

      In 2013, the last year of sports car racing before the ALMS merged with the Grand-Am, here’s what the GT grids looked like at Lime Rock:

      ALMS – 19 cars (11 GT2 and 8 spec Porsche GTC)

      Grand-Am – 19 cars (15 Rolex GT and 4 GX)

      So, 18 cars at Lime Rock for 2018 (8 GTLM and 10 GT3) looks pretty good by comparison.

      The REAL problem is that it turns the people who urged IMSA to adopt full GT3 spec cars for GTD, because it would supposedly boost grids, entice a wave of foreign entries and lower costs, didn’t know what they were talking about.

  3. Pete

    July 11, 2018 at 5:46 pm

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see the #86 added late, as has been the case once or twice already this year. Shank is obviously working very hard to find the funding race-by-race to keep them in the title hunt.

    I wonder how much advertising space the $12 in my pocket would get me…

  4. GT3 FTW

    July 11, 2018 at 5:51 pm

    send the GT3s to PWC so there can be a decent GT3 field somewhere here

  5. Marc

    July 11, 2018 at 5:55 pm

    Obviously the GTD budgets have ballooned significantly. Race cars budgets are based on running time and spares. I hope for GTD’s sake the IMSA drops the number of races for the class next year. I think the easy one’s would be to just drop both GT only races.

    • Matt

      July 11, 2018 at 6:34 pm

      No those races are a staple of the series. Cutting races from the schedule doesn’t address the increased running expenses. The problem is GT3 cars are now very expensive to set up to be competitive since the cars have become more complicated. The cars shouldn’t have driver aids such as TC and ABS and the SRO needs to cost cap the class and IMSA needs restrict manufacturer set up involvement. The SRO needs to rewrite the class so that teams can purchase a car, and arrive at the track on mostly equal footing without manufacturer help.

      • Marc

        July 12, 2018 at 8:57 am

        IMSA can only control what it can only control. It can’t go to SRO and say “please please do this for us” and hope they agree.

        Running time is the #1 driver of year-over-year cost. Not car setup. Granted the more you race, the more you have to setup your car. So in a sense yes, setup is costly but the more you run the car the more setup you have and the more cost you have.

        Since the GT3 platform is rather stable in terms of homologation cycles, those who own GT3 can amortize the purchase cost of the cars over several years. With the cost of owning the cars low due to amortization the significant cost of the cars comes down to running time.

        With needing to get running time down (that’s why there was speculation of removing Daytona 24 from GTDs schedule) the easiest races to remove for GTD is Lime Rock and VIR. #1) Because there are other races in the approximate geographic area as those two (Watkins Glen & Mid-Ohio). #2) Removing GTD from other events is less attractive option.

        IMSA is in a tough decision, but leadership is not easy. They need to look at the health of their series and entrants, and control what they can control.

        • Matt

          July 12, 2018 at 3:21 pm

          The Lime Rock and VIR races are heavily attended so that’s not an option for the series. Once again, the problem is the cars have become very expensive to set up to reach maximium potential. This is the reason “running costs” are so high. Teams need to pay for a good deal of engineering to get the set ups correct. Running costs besides this are tires, brakes, and fuel which are not very expensive in comparision. The problem lies with the cars being much too complicated and aero sensitive. Sure we could just cut all the races from the schedule and have no running costs, but this doesn’t address the root of the problem with GT3. If the SRO doesn’t have plans to address the rising costs in GT3, then IMSA needs to come up with a new plan for its GTD going forward.

  6. jrw

    July 11, 2018 at 6:35 pm

    New here. Why are there 50-60cars for Blancpain GT3 races in Europe and only 10-20 in the U.S. for PWC and IMSA?

    • N8

      July 12, 2018 at 7:36 am

      It’s only a 5 race season, so the costs are a lot lower. It’s also got a lot more amateur involvement to fund it, including an AM-only category.

    • Haskellb

      July 12, 2018 at 10:47 am

      The European tour has 10 races and there are multiple national/international GT3 series in Europe to draw competitors from. Also the Blancpain series has factory efforts in the Pro category.

    • Matt

      July 12, 2018 at 3:25 pm

      The real reason is that most American racers spend their time in Nascar ladder series; most Americans don’t venture into sports cars. In Europe, it’s a totally different racing culture. They run open wheel for young professionals and sports cars for amateurs.

  7. jason

    July 11, 2018 at 7:04 pm

    Remember the speculation that the Daytona 24 hours for GTD maybe a non points paying race. I betcha that will happen, that along with Laguna Seca dropping, that way the teams won’t have travel west at all.

    The cars are already running to global GT3 regs, you can’t do anything on the technical side. I think it comes down to scheduling.

  8. speedy

    July 11, 2018 at 7:36 pm

    JRW, PWC GT3 car/grid number’s used to be that size, they( PWC )took these manufactures out these equation and these number’s fell. Like I said before GTD(IMSA) and PWC top class are one of these same now, and not getting any better.

  9. Daren

    July 11, 2018 at 8:44 pm

    What a shame. Imsa should have stayed with their own rules for gtd. History is filled with the FIA/SRO not being able to control costs and killing classes with technology.

    • Bopper

      July 12, 2018 at 1:51 am

      Like when GTD consisted of GT3 cars modified to run at Porsche Cup speeds (literally spending extra money to make a car slower), and a couple of tube frame “GT” cars that were technically prototypes?

      If one actually looks through history, SRO are actually more obsessed with making GT racing sustainable than any other governing body (through BoP, and occasionally-enforced rules barring manufacturer over-involvement), and this is why they dominate this form of racing world wide. Le Mans is the only reason GT3 didn’t kill off GTE years ago.

      • Andy Flinn

        July 12, 2018 at 9:19 pm

        Bopper, there were more cars at Lime Rock (19) in 2013 when they were Rolex GTs and tube frame cars.

        Adopting “full GT3 spec” for IMSA GTD was promised to accomplish three things: bigger grids, more foreign entries, and lower costs.

        We see NONE of that.

        • Andyneedsarealitycheck

          July 13, 2018 at 10:46 pm

          Oh goody, tubeframe junk. Yeah, they may have had the same number of cars, but those cars were patchwork pieces of crap so you really need to get over yourself, Andy.

          I guess you long for the days of Rolex with tubeframe “prototypes” and tubeframe “GT” cars because NECKCAR made sure that those “Camaros” in GT and “C Corvette DPs won.

  10. Dave

    July 11, 2018 at 10:33 pm

    At least Lime Rock is a short circuit so it will hide the small field a little bit. It’s a shame though as it is such a well attended event. I understand that the races in the series that exclude certain classes can add an element of interest, but for GTD teams having to haul your team to CT for a race after back to back weekends and then go home before heading out to Wisconsin is an expensive proposition. Especially if you are out of the running – which makes the 86 car’s absence all the more puzzling. Maybe it’s not really her track if last year’s race was an indication.

    Also, the majority of Blancpain races don’t field such large grids. There are 68 cars going at Spa, but Misano featured 22 cars. Spa has the benefit of having a second paddock so it’s a little unusual. Makes me wonder though what possibilities might be at Sebring once they add the new paddock for the WEC race next March……..

  11. NaBUru38

    July 11, 2018 at 11:06 pm

    Just 10 GTD entries? There were 15 in 2016.

  12. David Chaste

    July 12, 2018 at 1:14 am

    Is Justin Marks bringing money??? Hummm let’s see, considering his Daddy is one of the guys behind GoPro (which all teams use), and has stake in Tesla Motors, and is a part owner of the Golden State warriors, there’s a pretty good chance Justin he has a few millions of reasons for Michael shank not to move him.

  13. N8

    July 12, 2018 at 7:40 am

    You’d like to think that the easiest car to find funding for would be one that’s 3 points back from the Championship lead. Kat needs to be selling it as hard as the team owner.

    • Matthew Neidert

      July 12, 2018 at 8:23 am

      That’s worked at three races so far this season…Mid-Ohio, Belle Isle, and CTMP were all tracks that the #86 wasn’t planned to enter. The only race the #86 actually made the pre-event entry list was CTMP – the other two races came together last minute. Strong reason to believe that could happen again here. Shank was able to work with his other IndyCar partner (Sirius) to make CTMP happen – perhaps he can work with Autonation to make the remaining four non-TPNAEC races happen for them.

  14. juneracer

    July 12, 2018 at 11:25 am

    a GTD championship title is more significant to the true Am driver, the Bronze drivers that fund the balance of the cars in the class. a GTD title is not of much use otherwise. its so driver lineup critical. such a large variation with pairings. i doubt if Legge won the championship that it would change much for her.

  15. Someone

    July 12, 2018 at 12:27 pm

    Further proof this garbage track shouldn’t have had a race to begin with.

    The ams won’t even pay to run it.

    • Matt

      July 12, 2018 at 3:29 pm

      LOL the salty people that hate on Lime Rock have obviously never been there. Using Lime Rock and garbage in the same sentence just makes you look foolish.

      • Anthony D.

        July 12, 2018 at 4:18 pm

        Agreed. The Rock is short in comparison to others on the schedule but it demands perfection as there is no where to make up time and the mistakes aka slower lap times compound very quickly.

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